ZX80 treatment with RetrObright
Re: ZX80 treatment with RetrObright
Paul wrote:
I wonder what kind of bar in the UK will have H2O.I wonder what kind of bar in the UK will have H2O2.
eyerything will be okay in the end.
if it´s not okay, it´s not the end.
and: uıɐbɐ ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ɹǝʌǝ ɹǝʌǝu ןןıʍ ı
if it´s not okay, it´s not the end.
and: uıɐbɐ ʎɐqǝ uo pɹɐoqʎǝʞ ɐ ʎnq ɹǝʌǝ ɹǝʌǝu ןןıʍ ı
Re: ZX80 treatment with RetrObright
Ok guys, update..! This is what my ZX80 looked like when I got it. Yellowed and scuffed and probably used as an ashtray as there were burn marks all over the place.
After proper cleaning with soap and alcohol, I sanded down most of the burn marks. I managed to get my hands on 35% hydrogen peroxide from my local drug store. I did dilute it down to roughly 20%. I used a recipe from the official RetrObright website with Xanthan gum, Vanish oxi action and glycerine. Gives quite a creamy substance. Brushed it on to the enclosure and wrapped it up in cling wrap. Here it is bubbling away...
Took it out after one hour because I wanted to check if the solution was not too strong and might damage the ZX80 logo. And here's what it looks like! Almost completely white already! Will give it another treatment tomorrow. There are still a few tiny spots here and there. And I will fix the "N" of the Sinclair logo. That was also damaged when I got it. But so far succes! I'll show you the end result tomorrow.
After proper cleaning with soap and alcohol, I sanded down most of the burn marks. I managed to get my hands on 35% hydrogen peroxide from my local drug store. I did dilute it down to roughly 20%. I used a recipe from the official RetrObright website with Xanthan gum, Vanish oxi action and glycerine. Gives quite a creamy substance. Brushed it on to the enclosure and wrapped it up in cling wrap. Here it is bubbling away...
Took it out after one hour because I wanted to check if the solution was not too strong and might damage the ZX80 logo. And here's what it looks like! Almost completely white already! Will give it another treatment tomorrow. There are still a few tiny spots here and there. And I will fix the "N" of the Sinclair logo. That was also damaged when I got it. But so far succes! I'll show you the end result tomorrow.
Re: ZX80 treatment with RetrObright
LOL!
I ordered 12% hydrogen peroxide online, but managed to find the 35% variant at my local bar. So, thanks for the tip!
Re: ZX80 treatment with RetrObright
Looking good!
The "burn" marks are not actually burn marks as such but are usually the result of leads such as the cassette ear/mic lead or the power pack lead being draped across the case, which for some reason causes a reaction with the case plastic over time especially the issue one styrene vac-formed cases such as yours.
Somewhere on the forum I'm almost sure someone posted transfer graphics for the 80's case, I'll seek it out and post a link.
EDIT.
here third post down..
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=752&p=19898&hilit=z ... ers#p19898
The "burn" marks are not actually burn marks as such but are usually the result of leads such as the cassette ear/mic lead or the power pack lead being draped across the case, which for some reason causes a reaction with the case plastic over time especially the issue one styrene vac-formed cases such as yours.
Somewhere on the forum I'm almost sure someone posted transfer graphics for the 80's case, I'll seek it out and post a link.
EDIT.
here third post down..
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=752&p=19898&hilit=z ... ers#p19898
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Re: ZX80 treatment with RetrObright
ZX81 Variations
ZX81 Chip Pin-outs
ZX81 Video Transistor Buffer Amp
Standby alert
There are four lights!
Step up to red alert. Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb
Looking forward to summer later in the year.
ZX81 Chip Pin-outs
ZX81 Video Transistor Buffer Amp
Standby alert
There are four lights!
Step up to red alert. Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb
Looking forward to summer later in the year.
Re: ZX80 treatment with RetrObright
Great result! a big improvement
Re: ZX80 treatment with RetrObright
Wow, didn't know that! Good to know NOT to store the ZX80 with cables on top. Thanks for the link btw. But I think I will try to fix it with some paint for now...Moggy wrote: ↑Sat May 27, 2017 5:30 pm Looking good!
The "burn" marks are not actually burn marks as such but are usually the result of leads such as the cassette ear/mic lead or the power pack lead being draped across the case, which for some reason causes a reaction with the case plastic over time especially the issue one styrene vac-formed cases such as yours.
Somewhere on the forum I'm almost sure someone posted transfer graphics for the 80's case, I'll seek it out and post a link.
EDIT.
here third post down..
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=752&p=19898&hilit=z ... ers#p19898
Now looking back at some of the pictures I took before the restoration, I can see that some of the deeper marks are curved. So that could indicate that a rolled up cable has been laying on top for a looooong time. It is surprising to see how deep these nicks can get over time.
It absolutely is! Are you the same person as Tezza mentioned on the official http://www.retr0bright.com/make.html website? Just noticed that while I was making batch two of the stuff.
Anyway, back to the chemical lab Forgot to put the rivets in the Retr0bright yesterday...
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Re: ZX80 treatment with RetrObright
ZX81 Variations
ZX81 Chip Pin-outs
ZX81 Video Transistor Buffer Amp
Standby alert
There are four lights!
Step up to red alert. Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb
Looking forward to summer later in the year.
ZX81 Chip Pin-outs
ZX81 Video Transistor Buffer Amp
Standby alert
There are four lights!
Step up to red alert. Sir, are you absolutely sure? It does mean changing the bulb
Looking forward to summer later in the year.
Re: ZX80 treatment with RetrObright
No that's not me but I'm sure that I have spoken with him and Merlin many years ago in another forum.MaFli wrote: ↑Sun May 28, 2017 2:27 pmAre you the same person as Tezza mentioned on the official http://www.retr0bright.com/make.html website? Just noticed that while I was making batch two of the stuff.
I did some retr0brighting actually this afternoon on some Spectrum+ keycaps. Rather than the plastic which in this case of course is black, the white print had yellowed quite considerably. It was pretty overcast today but I thought there would be enough UV and after a couple of hours the print looks nice and white again. The peroxide has a bleaching effect so if they were yellow due to pollutants or a reaction to the oil in the skin left over time rather than UV exposure I guessed it would help either way. Thorough cleaning beforehand had made no difference. There was no tobacco smell although the system was pretty dirty overall. I'll post a before and after photo when I put it back together