"Different" ZX81's

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Fwapp
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Re: "Different" ZX81's

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:lol:

Arse.

One more for the list! Great to see though! :D
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Re: "Different" ZX81's

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On a more serious note should I ever come across such beasties in my travels, knowing that you are a serious collector as opposed to me being just a user I will gladly reserve buy or point you in the direction of said doofahs. :D
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Re: "Different" ZX81's

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Thanks appreciate it :D

Although I would say all my 'puters get an airing, none sit in a dark box wondering what they done to be shut away! :)
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Re: "Different" ZX81's

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Fwapp wrote:Although I would say all my 'puters get an airing, none sit in a dark box wondering what they done to be shut away! :)
Glad to hear it :D

BTW, if you aim for collecting as many Zeddy variations as possible, going beyond the three different PCBs and the three ULAs, there are rather a lot...

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Re: "Different" ZX81's

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:D I can imagine there is!

The rough list I've come up with - and based upon UK Sinclair releases

I'm discounting memory configurations as well ;)

Issue 1 = Green Soldermask
Issue 3 = Red Soldermask

Issue 1 with 2c158e/bugged ROM
Issue 1 with 2c158e/bugged ROM and kludge ROM fix
Issue 1 with 2c184e/bugged ROM
Issue 1 with 2c184e/bugged ROM and kludge ROM fix
Issue 1 with 2c184e/fixed ROM
Issue 1 with 2c184e/bugged ROM and kludge ROM fix (PCB cream coloured/green soldermask)
Issue 1 with 2c184e/fixed ROM (PCB cream coloured/green soldermask)
Issue 1 with 2c210e/ROM
Issue 1 with 2c210e and eprom instead of ROM
Issue 3 with 2c210e/ROM
Issue 3 with 2c210e and eprom instead of ROM
Issue 3 with 2c210e/Rom (green soldermask)

I've got or seen the above and I'm happy to have have a version of some of the above rather than each one (I have a 8111 2c158e with a ROM kludge, so happy not to have a 2c184e with a kludge etc.

One obscurity (posted by Spirantho on FB) was a Sinclair Issue 1 PCB with Made in Spain on the PCB - quite different!

I'm all ears if there are anymore, especially if there are pictures :D
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Re: "Different" ZX81's

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This article seems to suggest hand assembly of the boards.

http://craigsretrocomputingpage.eu5.org ... ction.html
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Re: "Different" ZX81's

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Ooooh, nice find! Love this sort of thing.

Along with the pictures, it pretty much says "Hand Built in Britain" , which a bit scary!

Had this turn up today.
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Issue 3 with green soldermask. The components are sitting high on the pcb, not flat and the PCB manufacturer is different as well. Maybe Sinclair tried a different assembler?
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Re: "Different" ZX81's

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I started a thread here which links to a book suggesting a change in 1983.

viewtopic.php?f=10&t=2156

Mark opines that it is probably factually incorrect and I'm inclined to agree with him,something to ponder never the less.

Excellent board by the way! :D

I also have issue 3's with high sitting components.
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Re: "Different" ZX81's

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Ta :)

Interesting link - as mentioned on the other post, I read recently about a potential move by Sinclair, this board maybe linked to a tentative move (a bit like the Saga ULA that turned up recently, as Sinclair looked to possibly move from Ferranti for ULA's)
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Re: "Different" ZX81's

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Fwapp wrote:*Waits for B to drop his US Issue 3 PCB out" :lol:
Whoops, bit late :D

Anyhow, here's my US Issue 3 (right) along with a UK Issue 3 (left, *slightly* modified):

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