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Re: "Different" ZX81's

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 11:35 pm
by Moggy
One of these days I might take a trip up to where the Timex factory was in Dundee, go into the local pub and shout...
"Any ex Timex workers from the Sinclair line here, the drinks are on me" :lol:

Re: "Different" ZX81's

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:41 am
by 1024MAK
Somewhere along the line, the change from the issue 1 to the issue 3 is likely to have been driven by either cost, practically or need.

When you are talking about the numbers of zeddies that Sinclair were shifting, the cost of redesigning a PCB of that size is relatively small.

Mark

Re: "Different" ZX81's

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:46 am
by Fwapp
My gut feeling its practicality/need, linked to the physical extras needed by the US market (all that bonding between case and PCB)

Re: "Different" ZX81's

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:58 pm
by balford
That would make perfect sense - the UK and USA Issue 1 PCB's were necessarily different, and I guess the Issue 3 was intended to be a 'universal' PCB with provision for extra components/shielding points required for the US market.

B

Re: "Different" ZX81's

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:21 pm
by Moggy
balford wrote:That would make perfect sense - the UK and USA Issue 1 PCB's were necessarily different, and I guess the Issue 3 was intended to be a 'universal' PCB with provision for extra components/shielding points required for the US market.

B

If you look at the track layout of the USA board it's no more than a tidied up CAD version of the UK issue 1 albeit with a couple of extra components added ( the UK issue 1 has the transfer markings for the US components ) whereas the UK issue 3 is a total redesign hardly resembling the USA board at all in layout therefore not used state-side, so not universal I would have thought.

Judging by the lack of sockets I suggest the issue 3 was a cost cutting end of life for the UK-"Spectrum on the horizon"- measure rather than a universal board bearing in mind how quickly the Americans dropped the Timex 1000 after its intro in 1982 (discontinued 1983).

All supposition on my part I might add. :lol:

Re: "Different" ZX81's

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:53 pm
by Fwapp
*Waits for B to drop his US Issue 3 PCB out" :lol:

Re: "Different" ZX81's

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:57 pm
by Moggy
Fwapp wrote:*Waits for B to drop his US Issue 3 PCB out" :lol:

No need we have a lovely piccy provided by your good self to look at! :lol:

Re: "Different" ZX81's

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:01 pm
by Moggy
Also as the earthing/grounding call it what you will is little more than what looks like a couple of inductors and a tin strip touching the inside of a spray painted case, and was needed for radio emission suppression rather than earthing in the true sense of the word, I wouldn't have thought a universal design would be deemed unnecessary. :D

Again just me being a silly old tabby. :lol:

Re: "Different" ZX81's

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:25 pm
by Fwapp
Now I'd call that an Issue 1(ish) based on the ULA/ROM/CPU layout. Hmmm, this is bugging me, I think your idea of taking a full wallet up to Dundee might be a good idea :D

Re: "Different" ZX81's

Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 4:26 pm
by Moggy
Well buggar me with a fish fork! :shock:

It would seem that some UK issue threes did go state-side along with the tarted up issue 1.
Here's an American fitted board issue 3 with green masking dated 1981.

One more for Fwapp to collect. :lol: