28C64 in 2364 socket (28 pin to 26 pin)

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28C64 in 2364 socket (28 pin to 26 pin)

Post by mrtinb » Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:48 pm

To fit an 28 pin EEPROM in a 2364 PROM socket needs a conversion circuit.

It's built but not tested.

Design using strip board, here are some pictures. It will only work, because this is a double sided strip board, where every hole is connected top to bottom. Design of bottom side does not show strip board even though it is. It needs to be double sided, as the female sockets is soldered on top, and male socket is soldered on bottom.

It still needs a little cleaning with alcohol to clean out the flux.

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Re: 28C64 in 2364 socket (28 pin to 26 pin)

Post by McKlaud » Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:44 pm

Nice :)

I've done something similar for SMD EEPROM chips. See below:

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The project is public on OSHPark, there: https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/ArG7JDff
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Re: 28C64 in 2364 socket (28 pin to 26 pin)

Post by Paul » Mon Apr 09, 2018 6:34 am

McKlaud wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:44 pm
Nice :)
Your little PCB is very nice as well ;)
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Re: 28C64 in 2364 socket (28 pin to 26 pin)

Post by mrtinb » Mon Apr 09, 2018 7:06 am

Claudius: How do you program the SMD when it is soldered to this PCB? No EEPROM burner recognizes a 24 pin 28C64.
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Re: 28C64 in 2364 socket (28 pin to 26 pin)

Post by McKlaud » Mon Apr 09, 2018 9:02 am

Burn before soldering. :)

The space inside the Zeddy's case is very limited. Unfortunately you will not be able to fit your adapter there and close the case.
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Re: 28C64 in 2364 socket (28 pin to 26 pin)

Post by Lardo Boffin » Mon Apr 09, 2018 5:21 pm

McKlaud wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 11:44 pm
Nice :)

I've done something similar for SMD EEPROM chips. See below:

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The project is public on OSHPark, there: https://oshpark.com/shared_projects/ArG7JDff
Is is possible to buy a complete one of these anywhere?

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Re: 28C64 in 2364 socket (28 pin to 26 pin)

Post by mrtinb » Sat Apr 14, 2018 12:40 pm

mrtinb wrote:
Sun Apr 08, 2018 10:48 pm
To fit an 28 pin EEPROM in a 2364 PROM socket needs a conversion circuit.

It's built but not tested.
I couldn’t get it to work. But then I found that the EEPROM contained 00h’s every time it had been tested.

Then I realized that /WE should be tied to 5V and not floating. The two pins were next to each other, so a huge pile of solder fixed the circuit. :)
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Re: 28C64 in 2364 socket (28 pin to 26 pin)

Post by McKlaud » Mon May 14, 2018 12:28 am

Hi Martin,

Have you managed to squeeze your board inside the Zeddy case? I went to the SMD route and still the board a bit too fhigh. I should buy some flip-pins and try them.

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Re: 28C64 in 2364 socket (28 pin to 26 pin)

Post by daybyter » Mon May 14, 2018 4:50 am

Could you sand the black plastic spacers a bit shorter and then cut the pins by 1 or 2 millimeter? With a dremel and diamond disc maybe?

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Re: 28C64 in 2364 socket (28 pin to 26 pin)

Post by Paul » Mon May 14, 2018 6:37 am

You could put the EEproms on the bottom side.
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