EPROM suggestions

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Re: EPROM suggestions

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Paul wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 7:53 am There are w27c512 eeproms with EPROM pinout that I often recommend.
Please! Recommend away! Grateful for links.
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https://www.ebay.de/itm/176099977330
Is the product.
I have no experience with this seller.
I normally buy at the seller
gc_supermarket (247002) which is on holidays until 16th of February
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I don't mind waiting for a known good seller. I found their shop, but a search for W27C512 turns up nothing.
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Drat. They've de-listed all their items while they're away. (sigh)
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On the other side deactivated listings during absence are a sign of good sellers
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msknight wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:46 am Drat.
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1024MAK wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 10:34 am
msknight wrote: Wed Feb 07, 2024 9:46 am Drat.
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I did just order some of those one time chips from Farnell though, gives me something to play with and mess up.
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I've just noticed and registered... if I do the BIOS mod, which requires CE to be tied to ground, then that will stuff up using something like the ZXpand+ because it will want to disable the BIOS by trying to keep that line high.

Do I understand that correctly please?
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No need to worry.
Zxpand disables romcs which ist used with a ROM mod.
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The control signal from the ULA (/ROMCS) goes via a resistor (so that an external device can disable the ROM) to pin 22 of the ROM socket. On a 27 series EPROM, this is /OE (output enable or /G ). The EPROM will only output data if this control line is at a logic low level. Hence it does not matter if pin 20 (/CE - chip enable or /CS - chip select or /E - enable) is always low (connected to 0V/GND).

For the EPROM to drive its databus lines BOTH /OE and /CE must be at a logic low level.

When the external device (ZXpand / ZXpand+ or other device) wants to page out the internal ZX81 ROM, it takes the /ROMCS line high and the EPROM then disables all its outputs.

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