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RAM speed issue

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 12:49 pm
by msknight
I've fitted a couple of zeddies with Alliance AS6C62256 32k ram chips. Memory testing is happy with 16k present and usable by basic.

However, with a 220pF cap fitted it's not enough and if I go one step higher to 330pF I end up losing the left column.

I don't immediately want to write this off as a RAM issue, but I'm between steps here.

Grateful for thoughts and advice.

Re: RAM speed issue

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:08 pm
by msknight
I just thought to tag a 220pF and 47pF together... and that still resulted in garbage on the screen.

Re: RAM speed issue

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:22 pm
by Lardo Boffin
I have not had to go above 100pF to get hires working. So far they have worked on 47 to 100pF

Re: RAM speed issue

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:38 pm
by msknight
Lardo Boffin wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:22 pm I have not had to go above 100pF to get hires working. So far they have worked on 47 to 100pF
Maybe Mouser are now selling duff chips!

I did try 47 and no dice. I'll try 100 and see what I get, but I don't hold out much hope. ... but that's one reason why I asked... at this point it can't just be a ram/cap thing?

I don't have any spare ferranti's to try either... I've got a couple of uLA81 on back order. No clue when they'll come.

Re: RAM speed issue

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:42 pm
by dr beep
This game is the first to use executable code in upper memory, but that should not be the problem

Re: RAM speed issue

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:43 pm
by dr beep
The lowres display is ok, problem is in the hiresdisplay.

Re: RAM speed issue

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:45 pm
by msknight
dr beep wrote: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:43 pm The lowres display is ok, problem is in the hiresdisplay.
Correct. it's just the highres display that I can't get stable.

Re: RAM speed issue

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:47 pm
by msknight
Incidentally, I use that game because it's quick to get in via tape.

Also, I appear to have a good clock. A little curved at the front and dipping below 0 on the drop, but hitting 5v at 3.25Mhz.

Re: RAM speed issue

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 1:50 pm
by msknight
In case it matters for the price of fish, here's the clock as going in to the processor...

Re: RAM speed issue

Posted: Fri Mar 08, 2024 2:07 pm
by dr beep
I can tell you exactly what value must be read but not ATM.
Tonight earliest.

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